Erdős Problem #827 — Let nkn_k be minimal such that if nkn_k points in R2\mathbb{R}^2 are in general position then there exists a subset of kk points such that all (k3)\binom{k}{3} triples determine circles of different ra…

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Let nkn_k be minimal such that if nkn_k points in R2\mathbb{R}^2 are in general position then there exists a subset of kk points such that all (k3)\binom{k}{3} triples determine circles of different radii. Determine nkn_k.

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Progress summary

Refreshed
Claimed progress

The exact threshold is unknown, but a published note repairs an old gap and proves that some polynomial-sized set always contains the required configuration.

Paul Erdős posed the problem and later claimed a positive answer. The question asks for the smallest number nkn_k guaranteeing kk points whose triples define circles with pairwise distinct radii.

Known results

  • Erdős (1978) claimed nk≤k+(k−12)(k−13)n_k\le k+\binom{k-1}{2}\binom{k-1}{3}, but the proof omitted a nontrivial case.
  • Erdős (1985) restated the claim and gave partial credit to E. Straus.
  • The earlier argument also yielded the related bound nk≤2(k−12)(k−13)+kn_k\le 2\binom{k-1}{2}\binom{k-1}{3}+k.
  • Explicit small cases recorded in the literature include n4≤9n_4\le 9 and n5≤37n_5\le 37.

Bézout-based repair

The note “Points defining triangles with distinct circumradii” claims to repair Erdős’s gap using Bézout’s theorem and proves the polynomial upper bound nk=O(k9)n_k=O(k^9). This establishes substantial progress but does not determine the exact value of nkn_k; the claim is not independently verified here.

Current status (as of August 2026): A polynomial upper bound and small-case bounds are claimed, while the exact value of nkn_k remains open.

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