Orbit-space classification conjecture for symmetric matrices under the symplectic group

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Let S(2n,R)S(2n,\mathbb{R}) denote the space of real symmetric 2n×2n2n\times 2n matrices, let JJ be the standard symplectic matrix, and let ρ\rho be the symplectic-group action on S(2n,R)S(2n,\mathbb{R}). For 0kn10\leq k\leq n-1, let sks_k denote the nn invariants described in Conjecture 1. Orbit-space classification conjecture. If A,BS(2n,R)A,B\in S(2n,\mathbb{R}) satisfy

AcJfor all cR,BcJfor all cR,A\neq cJ\quad\text{for all }c\in\mathbb{R},\qquad B\neq cJ\quad\text{for all }c\in\mathbb{R},

and

sk(A)=sk(B)for all 0kn1,s_k(A)=s_k(B)\quad\text{for all }0\leq k\leq n-1,

then AA and BB are equivalent under the group action ρ\rho; equivalently, these nn invariants determine the orbit space S(2n,R)/Sp(2n)S(2n,\mathbb{R})/\operatorname{Sp}(2n). This conjecture proposes that the stated invariants completely classify the relevant symplectic-group orbits, extending the observed classification in dimension four; its resolution would clarify the general linear orbit problem.

Progress summary

Open

The conjecture that a short list of quantities completely determines these symplectic orbits remains unproved, and the source may concern skew-symmetric rather than symmetric matrices.

The relevant paper formulates Conjecture 1 for invertible real skew-symmetric matrices under symplectic congruence, whereas the supplied statement says symmetric matrices. It asserts that the invariants sks_k completely determine the orbit whenever neither matrix is a scalar multiple of JJ, but presents this only as a conjecture.

Known results

  • For n=2n=2, the paper states that the Pfaffian and the sum function completely classify the orbits.
  • For general nn, the invariants sks_k, 0kn10\leq k\leq n-1, are defined and proposed as complete, but no proof is given.

Current status (as of August 2026): The two-dimensional classification is reported as known, while the general conjecture has no verified proof or resolution in the retrieved sources.

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Primary source

Luchen Shi, Sunay Joshi and Ritwick Bhargava, “Congruence of Linear Symplectic Forms by the Symplectic Group”, arXiv:2212.08360 (2022).

Solutions 1

Counterexample

In the primary source, S(2n,R)S(2n,\mathbb R) denotes invertible skew-symmetric matrices representing symplectic forms; the word “symmetric” in the problem description is a transcription error.

The original conjecture is false already in dimension six. Put

J2=(0110),J=diag(J2,J2,J2).J_2= \begin{pmatrix} 0&1\\ -1&0 \end{pmatrix}, \qquad J=\operatorname{diag}(J_2,J_2,J_2).

Consider

A0=(010000100000000100001000000002000020),A_0= \begin{pmatrix} 0&1&0&0&0&0\\ -1&0&0&0&0&0\\ 0&0&0&1&0&0\\ 0&0&-1&0&0&0\\ 0&0&0&0&0&2\\ 0&0&0&0&-2&0 \end{pmatrix},

and

A1=(010000101000010100001000000002000020).A_1= \begin{pmatrix} 0&1&0&0&0&0\\ -1&0&-1&0&0&0\\ 0&1&0&1&0&0\\ 0&0&-1&0&0&0\\ 0&0&0&0&0&2\\ 0&0&0&0&-2&0 \end{pmatrix}.

Both matrices are skew-symmetric,

detA0=detA1=4,\det A_0=\det A_1=4,

and neither is a scalar multiple of JJ. Their complete Pfaffian polynomials agree:

Pf(tJ+A0)=Pf(tJ+A1)=(t+1)2(t+2)=t3+4t2+5t+2.\operatorname{Pf}(tJ+A_0) = \operatorname{Pf}(tJ+A_1) = (t+1)^2(t+2) = t^3+4t^2+5t+2.

Thus all three proposed invariants s0,s1,s2s_0,s_1,s_2 coincide.

Nevertheless, define

Ki=J1Ai.K_i=J^{-1}A_i.

Direct calculation gives

dimker(K0I6)=4,dimker(K1I6)=2.\dim\ker(K_0-I_6)=4, \qquad \dim\ker(K_1-I_6)=2.

Indeed,

K0=diag(1,1,1,1,2,2),K_0=\operatorname{diag}(1,1,1,1,2,2),

whereas the eigenvalue-one part of K1K_1 has nontrivial Jordan blocks.

If the forms were symplectically equivalent, some PP would satisfy

PTJP=J,A1=PTA0P.P^{\mathsf T}JP=J, \qquad A_1=P^{\mathsf T}A_0P.

The first identity implies

J1PT=P1J1.J^{-1}P^{\mathsf T}=P^{-1}J^{-1}.

Consequently,

K1=J1PTA0P=P1J1A0P=P1K0P,K_1 = J^{-1}P^{\mathsf T}A_0P = P^{-1}J^{-1}A_0P = P^{-1}K_0P,

contradicting the unequal eigenspace dimensions. Hence the two forms have identical proposed invariants but lie in different symplectic-congruence orbits.

The proposed invariants cannot classify orbits because they do not detect the Jordan structure.

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