Existence of non-smooth processes satisfying only one smoothness assumption

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Let ww be a process and let the three assumptions in Definition be the smooth-expectation condition, the relative-fitness-density condition, and the local-change-density condition. A process is non-smooth if it does not satisfy all three assumptions. Non-smooth-process conjecture. There exist non-smooth processes satisfying any one of these assumptions without satisfying the other two. For such processes, the Price equation

would not hold. The preceding theorem shows that satisfying any two assumptions forces the third and hence implies the Price equation, so this conjecture concerns the possible failure of the converse when only one assumption is imposed.

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Open

No public discussion or published progress was found for this conjecture.

No public discussion or published progress concerning this conjecture was found.

Current status (as of August 2026): The conjecture appears open, with no recorded activity found.

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Primary source

Tom LaGatta, “The Mathematics of Evolution: The Price Equation, Natural Selection, and Environmental Change”, arXiv:2202.10289 (2022).

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Counterexample

The conjecture is false: its second smoothness assumption cannot hold for any evolutionary process.

Fix a time tt, and write Nt=μt(It)(0,)N_t=\mu_t(I_t)\in(0,\infty). For every h>0h>0, the relative fitness is defined by

Ut,t+h=Wt,t+hEt[Wt,t+h],Et[f]=1NtItfdμt.U_{t,t+h}=\frac{W_{t,t+h}}{\mathbb E_t[W_{t,t+h}]}, \qquad \mathbb E_t[f]=\frac1{N_t}\int_{I_t}f\,d\mu_t.

Consequently Et[Ut,t+h]=1\mathbb E_t[U_{t,t+h}]=1, or equivalently

ItUt,t+hdμt=Nt.\int_{I_t}U_{t,t+h}\,d\mu_t=N_t.

However, the relative-fitness-density assumption in Definition 8.1(2), equation (8.4), requires the existence of the uncentered limit

Υt=L2(μt) ⁣-limh0Ut,t+hh.\Upsilon_t=L^2(\mu_t)\!\operatorname{-}\lim_{h\downarrow0}\frac{U_{t,t+h}}h.

Whenever Ut,t+hL2(μt)U_{t,t+h}\in L^2(\mu_t), Cauchy–Schwarz gives

Ut,t+hhL2(μt)ItUt,t+hdμthμt(It)=Nth.\left\|\frac{U_{t,t+h}}h\right\|_{L^2(\mu_t)} \ge \frac{\left|\int_{I_t}U_{t,t+h}\,d\mu_t\right|}{h\sqrt{\mu_t(I_t)}} =\frac{\sqrt{N_t}}h\longrightarrow\infty.

If L2L^2 is instead normalized by Et\mathbb E_t, the corresponding lower bound is 1/h1/h, with the same conclusion. If Ut,t+hL2U_{t,t+h}\notin L^2, the assumption already fails. Thus condition (2) is impossible for every admissible process. In particular, there cannot exist a process satisfying condition (2) without satisfying the other two conditions, contrary to Conjecture 8.3.

There is also an explicit counterexample to the preceding claim that any two conditions imply the third. On the one-point probability space take the identity transition kernel and the constant observable Xt=0X_t=0. Then the expectation derivative and local-change density both exist and equal zero, so conditions (1) and (3) hold, whereas Ut,t+h=1U_{t,t+h}=1 and condition (2) demands the nonexistent limit limh01/h\lim_{h\downarrow0}1/h. The centered expression (Ut,t+h1)/h(U_{t,t+h}-1)/h would avoid this obstruction, but it is not the density specified in equation (8.4).

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