Martin's conjecture that real Blackwell determinacy implies determinacy

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Let AD{\mathsf{AD}} denote the axiom of determinacy and let Bl-AD{\mathsf{Bl}\text{-}\mathsf{AD}} denote the axiom of Blackwell determinacy. Martin's conjecture.

Bl-AD{\mathsf{Bl}\text{-}\mathsf{AD}} implies AD{\mathsf{AD}}. Hence AD{\mathsf{AD}} and Bl-AD{\mathsf{Bl}\text{-}\mathsf{AD}} are equivalent.

Martin proposed this after proving that determinacy implies Blackwell determinacy. The claim is also posed as the paper's final open question, and its resolution is not indicated here.

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Daisuke Ikegami and W. Hugh Woodin, “The Axiom of Real Determinacy and the Axiom of Real Blackwell Determinacy”, arXiv:2510.11034 (2026).

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