Logarithmic face conjecture for Erdős–Rényi random graphs

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Let G(n,p)G(n,p) be the Erdős–Rényi random graph, where p=p(n)p=p(n) is the probability that each possible edge is present, and choose a random embedding of a random graph G∈G(n,p)G\in G(n,p). Let F(G)F(G) denote the number of faces of the embedding.

Erdős–Rényi face conjecture. The expected number of faces is

(1+o(1))ln⁡(pn2).(1+o(1))\ln(pn^2).

This gives a precise logarithmic prediction for the expected number of faces in the Erdős–Rényi model. The supplied text presents it as a conjecture following the general logarithmic-bound discussion, and no resolution is given.

References

Primary source

Jesse Campion Loth, Kevin Halasz, Tomáš Masařík, Bojan Mohar and Robert Šámal, “Random Embeddings of Graphs: The Expected Number of Faces in Most Graphs is Logarithmic”, arXiv:2211.01032 (2025).

Progress summary

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Claimed progress

The conjecture remains unproved, while a reader-submitted argument claims it fails for every fixed subcritical edge density.

Jesse Campion Loth, Kevin Halasz, Tomáš Masařík, Bojan Mohar, and Robert Šámal formulated the conjecture in work from 2022, with a published SODA version in 2024. It predicts logarithmic expected face count for arbitrary edge probabilities p=p(n)p=p(n).

Known results

  • Loth, Halasz, Masařík, Mohar, and Šámal (2022) prove the general bound E[F(n,p)]≤Hn2+1/p\mathbb{E}[F(n,p)]\leq H_n^2+1/p, but not the conjectured logarithmic estimate.

Community submission (unverified)

A submitted argument claims the conjecture is false when p=c/np=c/n with 0<c<10<c<1, asserting that the expected face count is bounded rather than asymptotic to log⁡(pn2)\log(pn^2). It uses the stated convention for disconnected embeddings and bounds faces through the graph’s cycle structure; the argument has not been independently verified.

Current status (as of August 2026): The conjecture and a general nonlogarithmic upper bound are established in the literature, while the claimed subcritical counterexample remains unverified and no proof or confirmed refutation is recorded.

Sources

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Counterexample: every fixed subcritical edge density

Jesse Campion Loth, Kevin Halasz, Tomáš Masařík, Bojan Mohar, and Robert Šámal conjecture that, for an unrestricted edge probability p=p(n)p=p(n),

E[F(n,p)]=(1+o(1))log⁡(pn2).(1)\mathbb E[F(n,p)]=(1+o(1))\log(pn^2). \tag{1}

This is Conjecture 1.2 in the published SODA 2024 proceedings and Conjecture 1.13 in the later, expanded arXiv version 3. Both statements allow pp to depend on nn and impose no lower bound on npnp or connectivity conditioning.

We show that (1) fails throughout the entire subcritical regime

p=cn,0<c<1.(2)p=\frac{c}{n},\qquad 0<c<1. \tag{2}

In particular, these counterexamples have linearly many expected edges and satisfy pn2→∞pn^2\to\infty, so the proposed logarithm is positive and divergent.

The source's convention for disconnected embeddings

The expanded source explicitly defines the face count for a disconnected embedded graph with connected components G1,…,GqG_1,\ldots,G_q by

F(G)=∑i=1qF(Gi)−q+1.(3)F(G)=\sum_{i=1}^{q}F(G_i)-q+1. \tag{3}

It emphasizes that isolated vertices and, more generally, tree components contribute nothing beyond the single global face. Thus, if GG is a forest, then F(G)=1F(G)=1.

For an arbitrary orientable cellular embedding of a connected component GiG_i, let hi≥0h_i\geq0 be its genus. Euler's formula gives

F(Gi)=2−2hi−∣V(Gi)∣+∣E(Gi)∣=1+β(Gi)−2hi,(4)F(G_i) =2-2h_i-|V(G_i)|+|E(G_i)| =1+\beta(G_i)-2h_i, \tag{4}

where

β(Gi)=∣E(Gi)∣−∣V(Gi)∣+1(5)\beta(G_i)=|E(G_i)|-|V(G_i)|+1 \tag{5}

is its cycle rank. Substitution into (3) yields the exact identity

F(G)=1+β(G)−2∑i=1qhi,β(G)=∣E(G)∣−∣V(G)∣+q.(6)F(G)=1+\beta(G)-2\sum_{i=1}^{q}h_i, \qquad \beta(G)=|E(G)|-|V(G)|+q. \tag{6}

Because every connected embedding has at least one face, (3) also gives F(G)≥1F(G)\geq1. Consequently,

1≤F(G)≤1+β(G).(7)1\leq F(G)\leq1+\beta(G). \tag{7}

Choose a spanning forest of GG. Each of the β(G)\beta(G) edges outside that forest determines a distinct fundamental simple cycle. If Z(G)Z(G) denotes the total number of simple cycles in GG, then

β(G)≤Z(G),1≤F(G)≤1+Z(G).(8)\beta(G)\leq Z(G), \qquad 1\leq F(G)\leq1+Z(G). \tag{8}

This bound holds for every rotation system, so it remains valid after averaging over both the graph and its random embedding.

Exact cycle estimate

For G∼G(n,p)G\sim G(n,p), the expected number Zℓ(G)Z_\ell(G) of simple cycles of length ℓ≥3\ell\geq3 is

E[Zℓ(G)]=(n)ℓ2ℓ pℓ,(n)ℓ=n(n−1)⋯(n−ℓ+1).(9)\mathbb E[Z_\ell(G)] =\frac{(n)_\ell}{2\ell}\,p^\ell, \qquad (n)_\ell=n(n-1)\cdots(n-\ell+1). \tag{9}

Therefore, when p=c/np=c/n with 0<c<10<c<1 fixed,

E[Z(G)]=∑ℓ=3n(n)ℓ2ℓ(cn)ℓ≤12∑ℓ=3∞cℓℓ=12(−log⁡(1−c)−c−c22).(10)\begin{aligned} \mathbb E[Z(G)] &=\sum_{\ell=3}^{n}\frac{(n)_\ell}{2\ell} \left(\frac{c}{n}\right)^\ell\\ &\leq\frac12\sum_{\ell=3}^{\infty}\frac{c^\ell}{\ell}\\ &=\frac12\left(-\log(1-c)-c-\frac{c^2}{2}\right). \end{aligned} \tag{10}

Combining (8) and (10), uniformly for every nn, gives

1≤E[F(n,c/n)]≤1+12(−log⁡(1−c)−c−c22)=Oc(1).(11)1\leq\mathbb E[F(n,c/n)] \leq1+\frac12\left(-\log(1-c)-c-\frac{c^2}{2}\right) =O_c(1). \tag{11}

In contrast,

log⁡(pn2)=log⁡(cn)⟶∞.(12)\log(pn^2)=\log(cn)\longrightarrow\infty. \tag{12}

Thus, in fact,

lim⁡n→∞E[F(n,c/n)]log⁡(pn2)=0,(13)\lim_{n\to\infty} \frac{\mathbb E[F(n,c/n)]}{\log(pn^2)}=0, \tag{13}

whereas (1) asserts that this ratio tends to 11.

For the explicit choice p=1/(2n)p=1/(2n), the uniform numerical bound is

1≤E ⁣[F ⁣(n,12n)]≤1116+log⁡22<1916,(14)1\leq\mathbb E\!\left[F\!\left(n,\frac1{2n}\right)\right] \leq\frac{11}{16}+\frac{\log2}{2} <\frac{19}{16}, \tag{14}

although

E[∣E(G)∣]=(n2)12n=n−14⟶∞,log⁡(pn2)=log⁡ ⁣(n2)⟶∞.(15)\mathbb E[|E(G)|] =\binom n2\frac1{2n} =\frac{n-1}{4} \longrightarrow\infty, \qquad \log(pn^2)=\log\!\left(\frac n2\right) \longrightarrow\infty. \tag{15}

There is also a regime in which the face expectation has an explicit limit: taking p=n−3/2p=n^{-3/2} in (8) and (9) gives

1≤E[F(n,n−3/2)]≤1+12∑ℓ=3∞n−ℓ/2ℓ=1+O(n−3/2),(16)1\leq\mathbb E[F(n,n^{-3/2})] \leq1+\frac12\sum_{\ell=3}^{\infty} \frac{n^{-\ell/2}}{\ell} =1+O(n^{-3/2}), \tag{16}

while

pn2=n⟶∞,E[∣E(G)∣]∼n2,log⁡(pn2)=12log⁡n⟶∞.(17)pn^2=\sqrt n\longrightarrow\infty, \qquad \mathbb E[|E(G)|]\sim\frac{\sqrt n}{2}, \qquad \log(pn^2)=\frac12\log n\longrightarrow\infty. \tag{17}

Hence the conjecture, as stated without a density restriction, is false. Whether an appropriately restricted version holds in a denser regime is a separate question not resolved here.